Safari for Windows… ?
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Now on windows? But Firefox has always been on Windows. Oh, you mean your browser. How cute!
Update: Ok, I’m using Safari right now. Actually, it’s nice. The biggest thing I can say is we have to find out what they’re doing for font smoothing and steal it. It’s magnificent.
Firefox text demo 1
Firefox text demo 2
Safari text demo 1
Safari text demo 2
DAve had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Just installing now. the most striking thing I’ve come across so far is the custom install path – I installed in D:\Browsers\ pointed the path there, clicked "new directory" and it created one _with the Safari name_ , for me it’s the little things like that that make my life easier.
Mitigated by the request to install a wadge of Apple extras that I don’t want or need.
David Naylor had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 3:56 pm
When I saw the news I got a very strong april fools feeling… 🙂
Mike Beltzner had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Are you using Minefield? The font smoothing in that is actually a lot nicer than Safari’s, to my eye.
David Naylor had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Font smoothing in Minefield? When I turn the windows font smoothing off I don’t get no font smoothing at all… Is it only available in the very latest nightlies?
Bo had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
Not bad, but without Find As You Type, a keyboard shortcut to switch tabs (Ctrl+Tab didn’t work, neither did Ctrl+Alt+Tab or Ctrl+Right arrow), or keywords for bookmarks/ quicksearches, it doesn’t even come close to Firefox for me. Pretty, though, and good to see another standards-based player for Windows.
Richard had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 6:10 pm
From where I’m sitting, ClearType looks much better than Safari’s font smoothing.
Laurens Holst had this to say,
June 11, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Status: Adding *.local to proxy exception list
The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code is 2738.
I guess no Safari for me.
Pretty impressive of them that they managed to mess up in the installer.
localhost had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 3:43 am
I’m not that pleased with the fonts in safari as well. Cleartype and Firefox look better if you ask me. Especially when bold and normal text are on one line, I hardly see the difference in safari.
Michael Lefevre had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 4:39 am
Just reading through all the blogs this morning, and first I saw a couple of people saying "wow, this smoothing is great, Firefox needs to copy this", and then I see people saying <a href="http://www.codinghorror.com…">"Safari’s fonts are all messed up"</a> (the comments there have some argument about this issue).
Stig had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 5:16 am
Does anyone know how much code is shared between Windows and Mac versions? Can you assume Mac and Windows versions works and renders the same way on 99% of all webpages?
Of course I’m asking because I wanna know if a Windows-version is a reliable test-app for Safari/Mac compatibility of webpages.
JD had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 5:57 am
You gotta be high or blind because Safari’s font smoothing is terrible. It ruins the look of web pages and Firefox + cleartype is way better and much easier on the eyes.
hansen had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I gotta agree with JD.
From where I’m sitting, Firefox is way smoother than Safari. (IBM X31 default resolution)
Richard had this to say,
June 12, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Grey, have you tried the ClearType tuning PowerToy?
http://www.microsoft.com/ty…
Benjamin Frisch had this to say,
June 13, 2007 @ 12:44 am
1. Did you know WebKit, Safari’s backend, even the Windows version, is opensource? (http://www.webkit.org)
2. http://www.joelonsoftware.c… pretty much explains the whole font smoothing issue.
Jeff Walden had this to say,
June 13, 2007 @ 3:20 am
I agree with others — the fonts are blurry and suck to read. Various sites claim this to be a Microsoft-Apple split over readability versus faithfulness to the typographer’s intentions, and honestly, I couldn’t care less what the typographer thought when he made his oh-so-beautiful printable font — I want to be able to read it on a screen, since that’s where I’ll see it most.
Martijn had this to say,
June 14, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
I don’t like font smoothing at all and always turn it off.
jon Morin had this to say,
July 18, 2007 @ 9:35 am
I don’t see how you can compare those screenshots in the post and honestly say that Firefox looks better. I guess like most things, even text appearance is completely subjective….
argh, my eyes! had this to say,
September 11, 2007 @ 9:16 am
Ok, so some people like fuzzy, pretty text, other people like readable text and using an LCD without getting a headache.
Apple, please, FFS give us the option to disable the fuzzy font nightmare!