Safari for Windows… ?

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The world's best browser. Now on Windows, too.

Now on windows? But Firefox has always been on Windows. Oh, you mean your browser. How cute!

Update: Ok, I’m using Safari right now. Actually, it’s nice. The biggest thing I can say is we have to find out what they’re doing for font smoothing and steal it. It’s magnificent.
Firefox text demo 1
Firefox text demo 2
Safari text demo 1
Safari text demo 2


  1. DAve had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 3:35 pm

    Just installing now. the most striking thing I’ve come across so far is the custom install path – I installed in D:\Browsers\ pointed the path there, clicked "new directory" and it created one _with the Safari name_ , for me it’s the little things like that that make my life easier.

    Mitigated by the request to install a wadge of Apple extras that I don’t want or need.

  2. David Naylor had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 3:56 pm

    When I saw the news I got a very strong april fools feeling… 🙂

  3. Mike Beltzner had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 4:05 pm

    Are you using Minefield? The font smoothing in that is actually a lot nicer than Safari’s, to my eye.

  4. David Naylor had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 4:34 pm

    Font smoothing in Minefield? When I turn the windows font smoothing off I don’t get no font smoothing at all… Is it only available in the very latest nightlies?

  5. Bo had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 5:36 pm

    Not bad, but without Find As You Type, a keyboard shortcut to switch tabs (Ctrl+Tab didn’t work, neither did Ctrl+Alt+Tab or Ctrl+Right arrow), or keywords for bookmarks/ quicksearches, it doesn’t even come close to Firefox for me. Pretty, though, and good to see another standards-based player for Windows.

  6. Richard had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 6:10 pm

    From where I’m sitting, ClearType looks much better than Safari’s font smoothing.

  7. Laurens Holst had this to say,

    June 11, 2007 @ 7:47 pm

    Status: Adding *.local to proxy exception list

    The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code is 2738.

    I guess no Safari for me.

    Pretty impressive of them that they managed to mess up in the installer.

  8. localhost had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 3:43 am

    I’m not that pleased with the fonts in safari as well. Cleartype and Firefox look better if you ask me. Especially when bold and normal text are on one line, I hardly see the difference in safari.

  9. Michael Lefevre had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 4:39 am

    Just reading through all the blogs this morning, and first I saw a couple of people saying "wow, this smoothing is great, Firefox needs to copy this", and then I see people saying <a href="…">"Safari’s fonts are all messed up"</a> (the comments there have some argument about this issue).

  10. Stig had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 5:16 am

    Does anyone know how much code is shared between Windows and Mac versions? Can you assume Mac and Windows versions works and renders the same way on 99% of all webpages?
    Of course I’m asking because I wanna know if a Windows-version is a reliable test-app for Safari/Mac compatibility of webpages.

  11. JD had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 5:57 am

    You gotta be high or blind because Safari’s font smoothing is terrible. It ruins the look of web pages and Firefox + cleartype is way better and much easier on the eyes.

  12. hansen had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 12:47 pm

    I gotta agree with JD.

    From where I’m sitting, Firefox is way smoother than Safari. (IBM X31 default resolution)

  13. Richard had this to say,

    June 12, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

    Grey, have you tried the ClearType tuning PowerToy?

  14. Benjamin Frisch had this to say,

    June 13, 2007 @ 12:44 am

    1. Did you know WebKit, Safari’s backend, even the Windows version, is opensource? (

    2. http://www.joelonsoftware.c… pretty much explains the whole font smoothing issue.

  15. Jeff Walden had this to say,

    June 13, 2007 @ 3:20 am

    I agree with others — the fonts are blurry and suck to read. Various sites claim this to be a Microsoft-Apple split over readability versus faithfulness to the typographer’s intentions, and honestly, I couldn’t care less what the typographer thought when he made his oh-so-beautiful printable font — I want to be able to read it on a screen, since that’s where I’ll see it most.

  16. Martijn had this to say,

    June 14, 2007 @ 5:17 pm

    I don’t like font smoothing at all and always turn it off.

  17. jon Morin had this to say,

    July 18, 2007 @ 9:35 am

    I don’t see how you can compare those screenshots in the post and honestly say that Firefox looks better. I guess like most things, even text appearance is completely subjective….

  18. argh, my eyes! had this to say,

    September 11, 2007 @ 9:16 am

    Ok, so some people like fuzzy, pretty text, other people like readable text and using an LCD without getting a headache.

    Apple, please, FFS give us the option to disable the fuzzy font nightmare!