Comments on: Opera is now ad and cost free… http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/ and other random particles... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:06:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Ada http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Ada Wed, 21 Sep 2005 18:58:30 +0000 #comment-382 They weren't saying that putting an email client inside was groundbreaking. They're saying the email client itself is groundbreaking. They do a lot of innovative things in the mail client that Netscape/Mozilla don't. I always tell people about BOTH FF and Opera, because IMO it's a personal taste issue. They're both good at what they're aiming for.<br /> <br /> I did notice that their "why" was not very "why"ish. They weren’t saying that putting an email client inside was groundbreaking. They’re saying the email client itself is groundbreaking. They do a lot of innovative things in the mail client that Netscape/Mozilla don’t. I always tell people about BOTH FF and Opera, because IMO it’s a personal taste issue. They’re both good at what they’re aiming for.

I did notice that their "why" was not very "why"ish.

]]> By: funTomas http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-380 funTomas Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:14:49 +0000 #comment-380 Being curious enough what the heck free Opera is, I gave it (8.5) a try. The first thing that delighted me was analyzing of proxy settings. When started using it I found it pretty intuitive, using the same UI behaviour pattern, eg. middle-click to open a link in a new tab, Ctrl+Tab to switch between tabs, etc. Also, what cathced my sight was evident edge Opera has over FF on the UI features field. To enlist 'em here would take up much space though;-) Being curious enough what the heck free Opera is, I gave it (8.5) a try. The first thing that delighted me was analyzing of proxy settings. When started using it I found it pretty intuitive, using the same UI behaviour pattern, eg. middle-click to open a link in a new tab, Ctrl+Tab to switch between tabs, etc. Also, what cathced my sight was evident edge Opera has over FF on the UI features field. To enlist ‘em here would take up much space though;-)

]]> By: David Lynch http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-377 David Lynch Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:22:59 +0000 #comment-377 "2. full-screen mode? for the projection-mode (to replace powerpoint in presentations) i know of no similar feature in ff."<br /> <br /> Press F11. (It's in the View menu, as well.) I don't know if it's the same as Opera's fullscreen mode, but it's certainly <em>a</em> fullscreen mode. :-) "2. full-screen mode? for the projection-mode (to replace powerpoint in presentations) i know of no similar feature in ff."

Press F11. (It’s in the View menu, as well.) I don’t know if it’s the same as Opera’s fullscreen mode, but it’s certainly <em>a</em> fullscreen mode. :-)

]]> By: David Naylor http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-376 David Naylor Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:51:21 +0000 #comment-376 "no unique features? i don't know..."<br /> <br /> Of course Opera has things Firefox doesn't. The point was they don't list any of them under the title "What makes Opera's web browser unique". "no unique features? i don’t know…"

Of course Opera has things Firefox doesn’t. The point was they don’t list any of them under the title "What makes Opera’s web browser unique".

]]> By: Kjetil http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Kjetil Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:16:32 +0000 #comment-375 no unique features? i don't know...<br /> <br /> 1. their zoom function is different from firefox', ff only zooms the text, while opera zooms the entire page, including images. <br /> <br /> 2. full-screen mode? for the projection-mode (to replace powerpoint in presentations) i know of no similar feature in ff. <br /> <br /> i might be wrong of course, if so i'd like to be enlightened. no unique features? i don’t know…

1. their zoom function is different from firefox’, ff only zooms the text, while opera zooms the entire page, including images.

2. full-screen mode? for the projection-mode (to replace powerpoint in presentations) i know of no similar feature in ff.

i might be wrong of course, if so i’d like to be enlightened.

]]> By: Daniel http://burntelectrons.org/2005/09/opera-is-now-ad-and-cost-free/comment-page-1/#comment-374 Daniel Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:11:44 +0000 #comment-374 Here's why I use Opera in addition to Firefox:<br /> <br /> 1. Opera is faster, and consumes less memory. On my system, FF takes about 15 seconds to start up on average. Most of the time, I'm quite happy with that. But when I need to quickly bring up a window to look something up, I use Opera.<br /> <br /> Incidentally, this is why I use Opera only when looking stuff up in World of Warcraft. WoW tends to choke my system as it is, and loading FF in the background is a very painful experience.<br /> <br /> Just for comparative purposes: if I load up all my pages in Firefox into Opera and check the memory usage, Firefox is using about 66 MB of memory, and Opera uses 28 MB.<br /> <br /> 2. Better reading controls. I read a lot of online stories, news posts, fiction, etc. I don't know if it's my monitor or my eyes, but cranking up the text size makes life a lot easier. Obviously, this is easy in Firefox, but it often causes pages to spill over the side of the screen. One feature I'd kill (well, not really) to have in FF is "Fit Page Width" or whatever it's called. It's an absolute god-send for pages designed for one size and one size alone.<br /> <br /> Honestly, I love Firefox, but there are still areas where Opera has it beat, hands down. I personally look forward to both browsers' development. Here’s why I use Opera in addition to Firefox:

1. Opera is faster, and consumes less memory. On my system, FF takes about 15 seconds to start up on average. Most of the time, I’m quite happy with that. But when I need to quickly bring up a window to look something up, I use Opera.

Incidentally, this is why I use Opera only when looking stuff up in World of Warcraft. WoW tends to choke my system as it is, and loading FF in the background is a very painful experience.

Just for comparative purposes: if I load up all my pages in Firefox into Opera and check the memory usage, Firefox is using about 66 MB of memory, and Opera uses 28 MB.

2. Better reading controls. I read a lot of online stories, news posts, fiction, etc. I don’t know if it’s my monitor or my eyes, but cranking up the text size makes life a lot easier. Obviously, this is easy in Firefox, but it often causes pages to spill over the side of the screen. One feature I’d kill (well, not really) to have in FF is "Fit Page Width" or whatever it’s called. It’s an absolute god-send for pages designed for one size and one size alone.

Honestly, I love Firefox, but there are still areas where Opera has it beat, hands down. I personally look forward to both browsers’ development.

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